19:29:43 From Kim Wallach to Everyone:
	I will have to leave at 8 for another meeting
19:30:08 From Tracy Newman to Everyone:
	Me, too.
19:30:12 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	we will be recording the session, Kim, so you will be able to watch it later.
19:30:24 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	Time check: 7:30
19:31:21 From Bobbi Ruth Macdonald to Everyone:
	Hello!  New to this community and happy to be here.
19:31:33 From Mark Binder to Everyone:
	Hello all!
19:31:40 From Sammie Haynes to Everyone:
	Hello Everybody!
19:31:48 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	welcome, Bobbi Ruth! So glad to have you here!
19:31:54 From Kim Wallach to Everyone:
	Hi Sammie!
19:36:58 From Susan English to Everyone:
	Is there going to be a handout or list of steps we should follow?
19:37:14 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	Yes, Beth will cover this
19:37:46 From Janet Yeracaris to Everyone:
	I’m not cohosted
19:39:39 From Susan English to Everyone:
	What about Ian Brehm?
19:42:07 From Kim Wallach to Everyone:
	I haven’t had a preliminary soundcheck scheduled.
19:44:53 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	Kim, have you submitted your sound form? One of us will send you email to set one up. Don’t worry, it's not too late.
19:45:19 From Kim Wallach to Everyone:
	I’m pretty sure I did.
19:45:26 From Marilyn Butler to Everyone:
	I have a question
19:45:42 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Does SourceConnect offer better audio and video quality than Zoom?
19:46:39 From Tracy Newman to Everyone:
	I haven't submitted a sound form.
19:47:30 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	To self-check lighting, you don't even need to start a full Zoom ... anything that can show your own camera, including the Zoom video settings panel, can give you that feedback so you can correct, exclude the daylight, whatever you need to do.
19:48:28 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Sara: It is primarily to allow for a band and caller in different locations
19:49:04 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	And NOTE: when that "bumper slide" disappears, in your at-Festival session, that's your signal to start performing!
19:49:16 From Sara B to Everyone:
	@Mieke C, is it a real-time, no-latency app?
19:49:40 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	"High resolution" sound, on the other hand,  is something that will be gone over at your pre-festival sound checks.  That's when we dive into Zoom settings and the tech weeds on all that.
19:50:27 From Richard Yospin to Everyone:
	thanks
19:51:04 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Sara basically, yes
19:51:27 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@sara but not just an app, it needs an experienced SCN tech to operate it
19:51:44 From Sara B to Everyone:
	@mieke C, thank you
19:52:31 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Note that you don't *need* a personal Zoom account to participate in NEFFA.  You can just use the client, join a meeting, and be there.  Once you're in the official NEFFA sessions, there's no timeout, because it's all running under the NEFFA paid account infrastructure.
19:56:06 From Jeff Keller to Everyone:
	You can log in to your zoom account on someone else's computer, but it's essential to use the same computer and setup for sound check as for the performance.
19:58:38 From Perry Shafran to Everyone:
	So there are two meetings to be scheduled:  a sound check AND a tech check?
19:59:23 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	There is one prefestival sound/tech check to be scheduled before the Festival.
19:59:45 From Perry Shafran to Everyone:
	Also - where can I find this NEFFA checklist?
20:00:47 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Perry this will be emailed out to all performers
20:00:48 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	performer checklist:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yorIzjJ9nGL8rulGOZ-NUWfHA4RZrxBO0FQLtgRIBhI/view
20:01:26 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	Make sure your device actually has an ethernet port for the cable to plug into - for instance, many newer computers don't have a dedicated ethernet port. There are adapters you may need to get.
20:01:34 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Perry the sound check is pre-festival, the tech check is at-festival when the zoom tech and you meet 30 minutes before the event
20:02:05 From Perry Shafran to Everyone:
	Thanks for all the help!  much appreciated
20:02:29 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	That's what we're here for 🙂
20:02:35 From Tracy Newman to Everyone:
	I have to leave to go to another Zoom thing. Thank you for this!
20:03:05 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	WE are recording this session so you can come back and watch it.
20:03:11 From Cathy Hollister-Nashville to Everyone:
	De we need to identify a co-host or will the festival have volunteers that serve as co-hosts?
20:03:32 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Are all sessions automatically recorded, or do we have to opt-in?
20:03:40 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	You can discuss this with your pre-festival tech.
20:04:19 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	We will be recording all sessions.
20:04:27 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Sessions are recorded unless you specifically opt OUT.  Because in general most folks [and their audiences!]  want their sessions to live on...
20:04:32 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	most, that is.
20:04:47 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	@Cathy Each session will have at least one NEFFA-provided co-host.
20:13:24 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	If your assumed Zoom name is "Joe's work computer", then the tech will be less likely to give it credibility.
20:17:19 From Michael Karcher to Everyone:
	Hear hear
20:17:39 From Kristin Bolton to Everyone:
	AMEN!
20:17:39 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Think of all these spaces like a physical room.  If you walk in too early, you're in on someone else's session, and you wait until your slot.  Although in this case, the "hall" completely closes for a while, then reopens and that's when you can get in for your soundcheck.
20:17:41 From Nancy Hershatter to Everyone:
	Astonishing is the wORD!!!!
20:17:51 From Lucy Joan Sollogub to Everyone:
	Neffa is amazing
20:18:14 From helen to Everyone:
	Yes you are!!
20:18:15 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Many cheers for Team NEFFA!
20:18:35 From Barbara Dyskant to Everyone:
	I agree — I’m impressed, delighted, and awed by how this is being one.  Thank you all!
20:18:45 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	The gratitude is REAL.
20:18:46 From Barbara Dyskant to Everyone:
	Oh, I meant how this is being done.
20:18:52 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Also, Zoom note -- the "raise hand" icon is what you want to use for questions.  The "slanted" hand is only virtual applause, and self-disappears a little later.  That *is* confusing ... but they are labeled.
20:19:04 From Karen R Sollins to Everyone:
	Another small bit of advice - reboot your machine before your session.
20:19:34 From Mark Binder to Everyone:
	True acknowledgements to the whole volunteer staff! Thank you.
20:19:43 From GIGI JENSEN to Everyone:
	Thank you for the training session. Also I am glad we can go back to the recording tomorrow to double check anything. Thank you.
20:19:48 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	Thank you, @Mark
20:21:27 From Susan English to Everyone:
	Does a band of 4 musicians count as 4 shares?
20:21:54 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Well said
20:22:21 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Susan good question - Lynn? Janet?
20:22:26 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	Individuals performing/calling/leading one or more sessions are eligible for 1 share. Duos are eligible for 1.5 shares. Groups with 3 or more are eligible for two shares.
20:22:39 From helen to Everyone:
	Is it too late to opt in? I don't recall if I did.
20:22:53 From Peter Kraemer to Everyone:
	Goodnight, folks. My gratitude to the NEFFA crew and organizers.
20:23:30 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	If you don't remember if you opted in, please write to program@neffa.org.
20:23:34 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Singing "together" over normal Zoom isn't really feasible because of delays, but singing individually is fine.  There are several sessions where people will be doing precisely that.  Someone will manage whose turn it is.
20:23:52 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	@Valentine, talk to your pre-festival tech; we can easily make notes for sharing a second person to sing a song during your session.
20:24:02 From Nancy Hershatter to Everyone:
	Need to sign off. A bouquet of thanks for the well organized session tonight. I will zoom with Mark on MOnday. Thanks again.
20:24:02 From Dave Marcus (he/him) to Everyone:
	Mike, if you accept the tips, that is taxable income. Given that you will get a check, you can’t hide it.   The charitable tax credit will get you back to a net zero, at best.
20:24:58 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	A reminder also that opting out of the revenue share divides your share among the remaining opt-in performers and techs.
20:25:20 From Dave Marcus (he/him) to Everyone:
	And taking the tips, you reduce the pool of tips for the other performers, and you’d have to work out special arrangements for NEFFA to be able allocate it back to performs.
20:27:14 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Please remind me: will sound checks be in a breakout room of the Zoom where your program is held?
20:27:22 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Apologies for missing this info!
20:27:26 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Cate not this year
20:27:49 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Cate they will be in the room your performance is in.
20:28:05 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	What if someone else is performing when our sound check is scheduled?
20:28:36 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Cate They won’t. We have it organized to work smnoother this year
20:28:42 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Thank you!
20:28:55 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	@Cate, you will be let into your room ahead of the start time, the audience wikll be in the waiting room while you sound check. There are 30 minutes breaks built into the schedule and there should not be anyone else there.
20:29:27 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Thank you for the clarification Persis, and to both of you for the help!
20:30:58 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	performer checklist:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yorIzjJ9nGL8rulGOZ-NUWfHA4RZrxBO0FQLtgRIBhI/view
20:32:09 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yorIzjJ9nGL8rulGOZ-NUWfHA4RZrxBO0FQLtgRIBhI/view
20:32:38 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	(sorry, the first one was not clickable)
20:32:51 From Clara Stefanov-Wagner to Everyone:
	there's two Zoom calls per "room”, in alternating cadence
20:33:08 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@Clara NO - not this year
20:33:18 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Can we access the google docs link after the zoom session? Where can we find it?
20:33:39 From E. J. Barnes (she/her) to Everyone:
	Click it now and save it.
20:33:40 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	The google doc is available from now on
20:33:49 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	save the link - it will keep working
20:34:02 From Sara B to Everyone:
	How do I save the link?
20:34:03 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	There will be a follow-up email to all performers with the link to the recording as well as another link to the performer checklist.
20:34:04 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	All the "A" and "B" sessions overlap slightly in a staggered way, *to* accomodate all these soundchecks.  For the public, it's the "checkerboard".
20:40:01 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	ME NEITHER.
20:40:04 From Parcel of Rogues to Everyone:
	Lithuanian broccoli salad.... :(
20:40:14 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Oh maaaaan.
20:40:31 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	Broccoli salad.... mmmmm
20:40:59 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Here's how it looked when that band came back on:  http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/pix/misc/2201/hotband.jpg
	  ... note the cute little umbrella over the *laptop* ...
20:41:09 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	What a delightful recovery process that is
20:41:13 From April Grant (she/her) to Everyone:
	I can only handle half of one of those big dense slices of chocolate cake, does anybody want the other half?
20:41:24 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Me I do
20:41:27 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	@April I'll have a bite?
20:41:35 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Community cake
20:41:55 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	@April, I'll take a forkful!
20:41:58 From April Grant (she/her) to Everyone:
	Nom
20:42:05 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	Callers, you may want to have some recorded music available
20:42:32 From Susan English to Everyone:
	Thanks, Don, good advice.
20:42:39 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Here was the proposed list of "food" breakout-rooms to date:
	Smoothies
	Lithuanian Cake
	Italian Meatballs
	Blueberry Scones
	Earl Grey
	Simply Cannoli
	Aahhh-Roma Pizza
	Trolley-Dogs
	Plymouth Cotton Candy
	Grilled Cheese
	Italian Ice
	Kettle Corn
	All Chocolate
	Potato Pancakes
	Stuffed Cabbage
	Goulash
	They probably won't all be like this, we'll need a few generic ones for
	random meet-n-greets and such.
20:42:43 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	Unless you're Steve.
20:42:46 From steve z-a to Everyone:
	Don….don’t you have a great acapella calling program?
20:42:54 From Stacy Rose to Everyone:
	Thanks very much for the performer orientation.
20:43:04 From Bonnie(CT Sea Music Festival & J-Girls) to Everyone:
	Thanks ver much for doing this tonight.
20:43:08 From Parcel of Rogues to Everyone:
	can't forget the maple cotton candy there used to be ages ago
20:43:14 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	Jinx!
20:43:16 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	Thanks, you all, for being here!
20:43:20 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Gods, I want ALL of that food NOW.
20:43:29 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Sooooon we will have such a feast!
20:43:42 From Janie Rothfield-Staunton Va to Everyone:
	Thanks !Lynn Beth and everyone!
20:43:42 From Phillip Nimeskern NEFFA Sound Tech to Everyone:
	Sara B., Click on the link in the chat message.  It should open in your browser.  Find the "star" symbol in the top line, next to the URL, click on it.  It should then give opens on how to save it.
20:44:05 From Dan Mullen to Everyone:
	No Lobster Roll breakout room? Shocking
20:44:09 From Dave Marcus (he/him) to Everyone:
	I suppose that all dance callers should have an hours of singing squares up their sleeve 🙂.   Don?
20:44:22 From Sara B to Everyone:
	@Phillip Nimeskern, thank you!
20:44:41 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	It's been done, but there was no voice left after!
20:44:43 From Stacy Rose to Everyone:
	@Lynn - thanks for all your work.
20:45:00 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	More than welcome. We love NEFFA.
20:45:13 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	Hence the recorded music tip...
20:45:22 From Andy Taylor Dance to Everyone:
	Thank you all for now and more thanks for after NEFFA
20:47:23 From Richard Yospin to Everyone:
	Thanks for this session!  We have to exit now, but appreciatie the info and help!
20:48:19 From Bob Wright to Everyone:
	This has been wonderful and informative. Thanks and see y’all at the festival.
20:48:56 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Beth, the bottoms of the slides are cutting off.
20:50:06 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	Try exiting full screen if you are in full screen mode.
20:51:24 From Mieke C, NEFFA staff to Everyone:
	(note that Beth is not able to read the chat while presenting)
20:51:25 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Who created these slides about zoom, audio, etc? They are excellent
20:51:34 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	Jonathan Whitall
20:52:31 From Andy Taylor Dance to Everyone:
	I need to go.  I will try to watch this later.
20:52:57 From David Curry to Everyone:
	Note:  to anyone who has drumming in their music, zoom considers drumming to be noise and will COMPLETELY mute your sound.  So it's really really important to turn on original sound if you don't want to be completely muted.
20:54:33 From Dave Marcus (he/him) to Everyone:
	Also worth noting for solo pianists: echo cancellation will cancel the sustain pedal at times.  It thinks the sustain is an echo?
20:54:38 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Unfortunately, Jonathan's examples aren't that different, even when listened to closely in headphones.  To see his prezzo from last year, you can watch it directly on Vimeo:  https://vimeo.com/549005291  he starts about 30 minutes in.
20:54:41 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	It's not on Linux or Chromebooks
20:55:25 From Jeff Keller to Everyone:
	It is possible to enable Original Sound on iOS devices.
20:56:02 From Ana Lisa Portillo to Everyone:
	I just changed my Zoom audio settings as Beth talked us through it.  Will the settings save and still be in effect the next time I use Zoom?
20:56:09 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	More things generally work on Linux now than did last year; Zoom and browsers etc have improved...  that's what I'm running on.
20:56:49 From Hobbit (tech) to Everyone:
	Still, try not to stream UP via wifi, it's doomed  to be lousy
20:56:56 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	You should make a habit of checking your Zoom settings before each performance. We tune because we care :-).
20:57:55 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Can you explain what "adding location to sound" is?
20:58:58 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Wouldn’t we need an external mixer to pan and EQ our sound?
20:58:58 From Dave Marcus (he/him) to Everyone:
	Adding location to sound means having a stereo signal where each instrument sounds like it is in a slightly different places on an imaginary stage.
20:59:11 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Thank you!
20:59:52 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	Just to clarify, Zoom is available for Linux but the client doesn't have the Original Sound option. The results are not as good when music is involved.
21:01:10 From Barbara Dyskant to Everyone:
	This is an excellent presentation!  Thank you.
21:01:31 From Woody Lane to Everyone:
	This is excellent. Thanks!
21:01:33 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Agreed, excellent presentation
21:01:48 From Marilyn Butler to Everyone:
	thank you!
21:01:51 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Thank you all SO much for all the time, effort, energy, care, and detail that went into this. So helpful and clear.
21:02:05 From Dan Mullen to Everyone:
	Thank you Beth!
21:02:15 From David Kidman to Everyone:
	I salute you all at Team NEFFA for the sheer amount of thorough organisation and effort that has been put in to make this work. Thankyou!  But I really do need to get to sleep now as it's past 2am here! Goodnite!
21:02:20 From Peter Fischman to Everyone:
	Thank you very much!!
21:02:23 From Karen R Sollins to Everyone:
	Thank you, all!
21:02:40 From Kristin Bolton to Everyone:
	Heading out. Thanks for everything!
21:02:41 From Lynn Feingold, FSSGB to Everyone:
	I love a good dose of optimism!
21:02:58 From David Kidman to Everyone:
	Thankyou again! Goodnite!
21:03:04 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	night, David
21:03:29 From Lynn Noel - NEFFA Program Chair to Everyone:
	David, thanks for staying up in the UK! We look forward to seeing you at the Festival!
21:03:33 From Sharon Green to Everyone:
	Thank you for an amazing effort.
21:03:39 From Cate Clifford Performer to Everyone:
	Good night all - sending warmth and hope and virtual NEFFAdils.
21:04:00 From Don Veino MA/US to Everyone:
	We should all send positive vibes to the Source Connect provider (or perform the suitable ritual per your personal beliefs)!
21:05:29 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Thank you so much! Excellent presentation.
21:05:34 From Michael Karcher to Everyone:
	Thank you!
21:05:36 From Lynn Feingold, FSSGB to Everyone:
	So great to see Margaret Walters zooming in from Australia!
21:05:42 From Margaret Walters (Sydney) to Everyone:
	It's been an amazing session. I look forward to getting the link to the recording - it's going to be useful not just for NEFFA but other performances I have coming up. Thank you to the team for getting together such a comprehensive tutorial.
21:05:47 From Sara B to Everyone:
	Lynn, I laughed out loud
21:06:10 From Ana Lisa Portillo to Everyone:
	Thank you, NEFFA!  Sending you much appreciation from West Texas!  Good night, all.
21:07:26 From Margaret Walters (Sydney) to Everyone:
	Saw you there Lynn F and others I've met in person back in 2017.  Cheers  and it's a lovely convenient time to be zooming (from 9.30am in Sydney )  for a change.
21:07:53 From Persis T, NEFFA Sound/Tech Staff to Everyone:
	great to see you all